NEXTCAP · Working Brief · Luka × Kevin

Deal Origination Engine™
Projections & Build Plan

Everything from the July 15 call, turned into numbers, a build plan, and the decisions to lock tomorrow. One engine serves both paths: deal origination and investor outreach.

Internal · Luka × Kevin only · Not for distribution
Measured: verified live on screen Assumed: labeled estimate Pending: live pull on day 1
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1 · The intent layer is real. We already verified it live.

The engine sits on a licensed intent-data layer: a Fortune-500 primary data provider plus roughly 200 waterfalled sources, refreshed every 24 hours. A person counts as "in-market" only after visiting 3 or more distinct websites on the topic inside the window. Every signal resolves through an identity graph to name, business email, LinkedIn, job title, company, direct number, mobile, geography, industry, employee count, and revenue. Exactly the fields we filter Kevin's ICP on.

~28,000/day
Raw records, nationwide, on the closest analog B2B topic we tested: companies seeking business funding (56k across 2 days)
Measured
17,500/day
Of those, delivered with a phone number attached (35k across 2 days)
Measured
168,000/day
Scale proof on a consumer topic (personal-injury intent, nationwide). The pipe handles volume far beyond what we need.
Measured
Day 1
Live counts on the exact fundraising keyword cluster get pulled the day the feed subscription switches on, replacing every estimate below
Pending

Honesty flag: the fundraising-topic volume itself has not been pulled yet. Every projection below is anchored to the measured analog above and tagged. Nothing in this brief is a promise. It is the model we validate in week 1.

Status as of July 16 · green-lit and standing
Telephony live
STIR/SHAKEN and 10DLC done. Our calls show a company name, not "potential spam." Brooke handles call-screening.
Brooke ready, both paths
The AI setter is built. The day leads land, she starts calling. Same-day speed to lead.
Funded Monday
Partner pays on Monday. Engine needs about 48 hours; back office builds in parallel. Live by Wednesday.
Calling Monday, if leads land
Telephony deal closed two days ago. Leads in Monday means dials Monday.
Receipt · Kevin sees the live numbers · Jul 16 call
Luka
"There is 28,000 raw records nationwide for the US every day. Closest analog, business-funding intent, 28,000. Fundraising cluster, between 6 and 14,000 a day. After ICP filters, call-ready with personal numbers: 200 to 500 a day."
Kevin
"Wow. This makes, like, paid ads absolutely nonsense, right? Because you never get this amount of data and this quality. Never, ever."
The numbers in this brief are the same ones presented live on the July 16 call. Kevin watched them on screen and reacted in real time.
real counts land on day 1, then this page updates itself
Receipt · live count demos, verified on screen · Jul 9 + Jul 12
jul 12 personal-injury intent, B2C, nationwide 168,000 / day jul 12 business-funding intent, B2B, 2 days 56,000 total jul 12 of those, with a phone number attached 35,000 jul 09 health-insurance B2B, owner-level, 14 days 13,900 both every record: name · title · mobile · email · revenue · headcount
Same feed, different topics. These counts were watched live on a shared screen, not taken from a sales sheet.
Kevin · Jul 15 call
"Oh, that's amazing, man. I wanted to have this in so long. You can work like that? Possible?"
live build session · this vertical · the night of the call
Luka
"At least that I have some parameters now, so I can see how many records per day pops out. Because then we can simply do the math."
The engine
Running the fundraising cluster against the measured analog tonight. Honest projection below; the real counts land the morning the feed switches on.
[cluster] raising capital · growth capital · series A/B/C · private placement · M&A advisory [filters] US · 2y+ old · revenue >= $1M · founder/CEO/CFO · phone + email required [measured] closest analog, business-funding intent ....... 28,000 / day raw [project] fundraising cluster, raw ...................... 6,000 - 14,000 / day [project] after ICP filters, call-ready ................. 200 - 500 / day [day 1] live pull replaces every projected number on this page
Projections stay labeled as projections. The measured line is the one we watched on screen.

2 · The hard path: what it took to be able to offer this

None of this came off a shelf. The intent access, the fusion engines, and the calling stack were earned the hard way in other verticals first, and that is exactly why the $5K build here is cheap: the expensive lessons are already paid for.

Receipt · what the $5K actually buys, in Luka's words · Jul 15 call
Luka
"This is not something... This is my work. This is the two grand. That's my work. The 5K is not my work paid, it's data feeds, tokens. I spend a billion tokens on doing it for PI leads. Billion tokens."
A billion tokens is what it cost to learn, in one vertical, which data fuses into a callable lead and which burns money. That learning transfers here for free.
Session window · the grind that built the fusion engines · months of work, other verticals
phase 1 single-source scraping. Dead ends. Wide nets returning zero usable leads. phase 2 fusion engines: incident + public-record + enrichment feeds cross-matched on time and geo phase 3 ~1,000,000,000 tokens of AI compute burned learning what actually produces phase 4 result: address-anchored, verified lead flow that grows every single day phase 5 that same architecture is what gets pointed at fundraising intent now
Every failure in those months became permanent infrastructure. The engine that runs NEXTCAP starts from that finish line, not from zero.
live build session · another vertical, months back · real exchange
Luka
"for sure there is a way to get these leads. figure it out."
The engine
There is. A "no" behind fewer than ten different routes is a to-do, not a fact. Reopening every assumption and trying avenues nobody else touches.
[route 1] the obvious portal ......... blocked [route 4] direct records request ..... dead end [route 7] a recorded-record index .... HIT [fuse] incident + home address + live line -> 1 verified lead [scale] the approach that "could not work" -> now producing across 5 states
That is the operating posture NEXTCAP inherits: a wall is a route not yet found, and the tenth route is the one that produces.
Session window · the door we paid to open: the data feeds
primary Fortune-500, publicly traded data provider · hard-to-get license waterfall ~200 additional sources, direct relationships, no resellers signal a person counts only after 3+ distinct topic sites · refreshed every 24 hours identity resolves to name · title · company · mobile · email · revenue · headcount access paid license held by us · counts demoed live on screen, Jul 9 + Jul 12
This is the level of feed most agencies never touch. Getting in costs real money and vetting; we are already in, which is why records land for cents instead of contracts.
The waterfall, animated

One base-case month, pouring through the funnel

Scroll to run it. Bar widths are log-scaled for readability; every rate is tagged in the section 3 table below.

Records worked · intent-fresh, ICP-filtered9,000
Booked calls90
Show up50
Truly qualified12
Closed clients3
$30,000 to $75,000 / month
Kevin-side revenue at $10-25K per closed client · base case · ops cost ~$1,840
the show + qualify rates in here are Kevin's own numbers

3 · Path 1 waterfall: records to booked calls to closed clients

ICP: US companies actively raising $5M to $500M · 2+ years old · roughly $1M+ revenue · decision-maker contact. Bottom-funnel rates use Kevin's own measured history (50 booked, 25 to 30 showed, 5 to 10 truly qualified).

Stage · monthlyConservativeBaseUpsideSource
Raw topic records/day6,00010,00014,000Assumed vs measured 28k/day analog
Survive ICP filters (/day)200300500Assumed 3 to 5% pass rate
Records worked / month6,0009,00015,000Pull-volume choice (we control the dial)
Booked calls4290~150 (capacity-capped)Assumed 0.7% / 1.0% / 1.5% blended book rate across call + SMS + email sequence
Show up235082Measured ~55% (Kevin's history)
Truly qualified61220Measured 20 to 33% of shows (Kevin's history)
Closed clients1-2 (avg 1.5)35Assumed ~25% close on qualified
Kevin-side revenue @ $10-25K/client$15-38K$30-75K$50-125KDeal terms from the July 15 call (tickets $20-50K, 50/50 split)

Base case means 90 booked calls a month, about 4 to 5 per business day. That is already past the top of the "Scale" promise (40 to 80/mo), so closer capacity at the NY partner becomes the constraint before lead supply does. The upside column is capped for that reason, not by the data.

Receipt · where the bottom-funnel rates come from · Jul 15 call
Kevin
"We call it disqualifying, because at the end, really, from 50 calls that we had booked, first of all, there were just, like, 25 to 30 showing up, so a little bit above 50% show-up rate, and then from them, at the end, just 5 to 10 were really qualified, right?"
Luka
"At least that I have some parameters now... because then we can simply do the math. Simply do the waterfall math, industry standard conversion rates."
The show and qualify rates in the table above are Kevin's own campaign history, quoted verbatim. Only the book and close rates are assumptions, and they are labeled as such.

4 · Economics: what it costs to run

The one-time build stands up the engine for BOTH paths. Monthly ops scale with pull volume, and we control the dial.

$5,000
One-time: intent engine build. Data feeds wired, ICP filters, disqualify logic, same-day trigger to outreach. Projected from what this has cost in other verticals we have stood up: proper intent + volume typically runs $7-9K per vertical. It is $5K here because parts of the engine carry over from plays already running with other JVs. Agreed on the call: the partner funds $4K on Monday, and Luka covers any difference himself, so the build is not gated on the last dollar.
One engine, both paths
$2,000
One-time: NEXTCAP dashboard + CRM back office. Logins for partner, closers, admin; recordings, transcripts, round-robin.
Luka build
Monthly ops · base scenario (9,000 records)AmountBasis
Intent records$4509,000 × $0.05/record
AI setter calling (Brooke)~$870About 8,700 min × ~$0.10/min all-in (3-min avg with interested, under 1 min with not-interested)
SMS touches~$270About 3 messages per record
Cold-email infrastructure~$250Dedicated domains + mailboxes, warmed; 14-email/45-day nurture
Total monthly ops~$1,840Conservative ≈ $1,300 · Upside ≈ $3,000
Cost per booked call~$21$1,840 ÷ 90 booked
Cost per closed client~$620vs $10-25K Kevin-side revenue per client → 16 to 40× return on ops

Same-day dialing is the edge: the intent signal lands fresh within 24 hours and we call the moment it does. The industry's own stat says outcomes drop about 90% past the first minutes of interest. Nobody else in this market calls on day-of-intent.

Receipt · how the $5K was priced, in Luka's words · Jul 15 call
Luka
"Five grand, let's say seven grand, we could do it for five. Because some parts of it I already have... from some other deals that I'm doing. So let's say five grand to make an intent engine."
Luka
"A thousand records and five cents is 50 bucks. Right, but for 50 bucks, now we got 1,000 hot leads."
Comparable verticals have cost $7-9K to stand up with proper intent and volume. The $5K holds because engine parts carry over from other running plays, and any overrun is covered by Luka, not billed.

Unit rate card · what the APIs charge us per action

ActionRateNote
Intent record pulled via API$0.05 / recordName, title, company, mobile, email, firmographics included in the record
Enrichment append (match + fill our lists)$0 up to 1M matches/moIncluded in the feed license; $0.05/record beyond that ceiling
AI setter talk time (Brooke)~$0.10 / minuteAll-in; ~3 min with an interested lead, under 1 min with a pass
SMS touch~$0.01 / messageUS routes, ours, no per-seat platform tax
Telephonyunder $0.01 / minuteOwn US infrastructure, no account caps blocking volume
Cold email sendfractions of a centInfra flat ~$250/mo: dedicated domains + mailboxes, warmed

Run rate · what a full year costs at each pace

PaceMonthly ops12-month run rateBooked calls / yrCost per booked call
Conservative~$1,300~$16K~500~$31
Base~$1,840~$22K~1,080~$21
Upside (capacity-capped)~$3,000~$36K~1,800~$20

Plus the $7K one-time build. Every figure derives from the rate card above and the funnel in section 3; assumptions stay tagged.

The same output, priced the old way

How the market does it todayPriceWhat you getBasis
In-house SDR team (2-3 setters to work 300 records/day)$12-18K / moHuman hours only; they ramp 4-6 weeks, sleep, churn. ~$200-400 per booked call.Assumed, US market ranges
Appointment-setting agency$3-8K / mo retainerOr $200-500 per qualified booked call; no intent data, cold listsAssumed, typical B2B rates
Enterprise intent platform, seats only$70K / yrKeyword intent per monitored company. No calling, no enrichment loop, no booking.Measured: our own past spend (receipt below)
Deal-origination memberships$15-30K / yrInbound listings and directories; zero outbound engineAssumed, published tiers
The NEXTCAP engine (this brief)$7K once + ~$22K/yrIntent + enrichment + AI calling + SMS + email + dashboard + 24h learning loop, ~$21 per booked call, runs day and nightSections 3-4, tagged
Receipt · we have paid the old prices ourselves · Jul 16 call
Luka
"I tell you, we were spending 70 grand on the enterprise intent platform. And it did hardly 20% of what this does. And it was a constant subscription. What we will be paying here, it's gonna cost 1,400 to 1,500 a month to have the engine running."
Why has nobody simply built this? The operator layer. Luka and his AI stack sit in roughly the top 0.015% of all AI users worldwide by depth of use, and even then the first fusion engine took a billion tokens to get right. The parts are buyable. The operating skill is not. Kevin said it on the call: the engine was always the missing piece.
Receipt · Luka's own paid-ads economics, for comparison · Jul 16 call
Luka
"From my example, we were spending $100K to $170K a month on ads. It cost us, for a qualified booked call, $180. And for a closed client, about a thousand, eleven hundred. Here, this is the worst it is ever going to be. For sure we get better at it."
Kevin
"Speed to lead was the gap before. The leads were not contacted within days. It can just be better right now."
Against a $180 paid-ads booked call, this engine's ~$21 per booked call is not an incremental improvement. It is a different category, and it replaces the single biggest line in the old model: ad spend.

5 · Path 2: investor outreach (quality over volume)

Per closed client mandate. Not a numbers game. A precision list, enriched, nurtured until the investor is genuinely ready, then booked with the investment banker. Humans take over from there.

Receipt · why this path prints, and who closes it · Jul 15 call
Kevin
"If the investor engine works as well... it can be every quarter, every four or five months, a closing, a term sheet generation. Depending on the fundraise, but let us say 100 million, it's most of the time 3%. So it's 3 million, 1.5 million here for us as party. And this is going in the background."
Kevin · on the NY partner
"They have a way better Rolodex than us... and 100% of the times, they went with gray hair, bro. You look at the track record, that's just reality."

6 · Keyword & filter plan (draft, Kevin to add domain knowledge)

Intent topic cluster · deal origination

  • raise capital / raising capital for company · growth capital · series A/B/C funding
  • private placement · PPM · Reg D offering · mezzanine financing · debt financing
  • investment bank for capital raise · capital advisory firm · fundraising advisor · M&A advisory
  • find investors for my company · institutional investors · family office investment

Firmographic filters (keep)

  • US-based · company age 2+ years
  • Revenue at or above $1M (must afford the $20-50K closing ticket; Kevin quoted full engagements running up to $150K)
  • Role: founder / CEO / CFO / owner
  • Contactability: phone required, email required

Disqualify (throw out)

  • Idea-stage / pre-revenue / students and researchers
  • Financial-services professionals researching their own market
  • Raise-size signals below $5M
  • Non-US · stale signals (older than 7 days)

7 · 30-day execution timeline

Day 0-2
Feed live + real counts. Subscription on, audiences built on the exact keyword cluster, live volumes replace every estimate in section 3. Dashboard branded NEXTCAP with logins, demo ready to show the NY partner immediately.
Day 3-7
Infrastructure warm-up. Cold-email domains warming, SMS and telephony live, Brooke's disqualifier script tuned to Kevin's 4 questions (raising now? how much? established? can fund the ticket?). First small-batch dials.
Week 2
Full daily pull + first booked calls expected. Same-day dialing at chosen volume; the calendar starts filling; every call recorded and transcribed into the dashboard.
Week 3-4
Optimize on real data. Keywords, filters, and the script lines that book. The 24-hour learning loop feeds closer language back to the setter. Investor-outreach mandate #1 kicks off once client criteria arrive.
Day 30
Review vs projections. Real waterfall vs this brief, then two decisions: scale volume, and pricing for productized NEXTCAP to the partner's network (their signaled interest: $50-80K setup plus running).
Receipt · this brief was built and attacked the same night as the call · Jul 15
18:48 call with Kevin · 72 min · transcribed in full 21:0x brief + dashboard built from the transcript 21:1x independent reviewer, round 1: FAIL · 1 blocker + 4 minors found 21:2x all five fixed · round 2: "arithmetically exact" · Verdict: PASS 21:2x leak-guard: CLEAN · deployed · both URLs live, HTTP 200
The same machine that produced this document is the one that will run the engine: build, adversarial review, fix, verify, ship, same night. That loop is the product.
Receipt · the demand, in Kevin's words · Jul 15 call
Kevin
"We never saw, like, such a responsive... potential clients, right? Because, like, if they need funding, they need funding. It's just a choice if they go with us or not."
Kevin
"The proof of concept is always there... they closed, and they deliver the investors and everything. But the engine was missing that is rinse-repeatable."
The demand is proven, the closers are proven, the Rolodex is proven. The one missing piece is the engine. That is the piece we build.

8 · The money model, and the partnership

Three revenue lines run on the one engine. The first pays the bills from month one; the second is the windfall; the third turns the whole thing into a product.

LineWhat it isThe mathTo Luka + Kevin
1 · Deal origination feesthe base, month oneBooked calls close into advisory clients. Packages re-scoped on the Jul 16 call to $40-80K (avg ~$50K), about $25K to the Luka + Kevin side after the NY partner's 50%. Section 3 keeps the conservative $20-50K July 15 estimate; the gap is upside.15 clients / quarter × ~$25K
= ~$375K, split 50/50
~$62.5K/mo each
($375K ÷ 2 ÷ 3 mo)
2 · Fund-raise success feesthe windfallWhen a client's raise actually closes, ~3% of the raise. One term sheet a quarter changes everything.$100M raise = $3M fee~$1.5M / event
3 · Sell the enginethe productLicense leads + routed booked calls to other advisories in Kevin's 60-person syndicate. The system self-improves with every call.~$1,000 / routed call · 100/mo~$100K / mo per buyer

Line 1 alone, at the conservative end, is the "minimum get-by money" before a single raise closes. Kevin's math on the call, quoted below. Every figure is a projection tagged as such; the closers and the demand are already real.

Receipt · the partnership, decided on the call · Jul 16
Luka
"We make a firm of our own. You're the business development side. 50/50 split between us?"
Kevin
"Yeah, this is what we would see, a partnership, bro."
Luka
"Perfect. I'm down for it."
A firm Luka and Kevin own 50/50. Credibility is built through the senior NY advisory, who take their 50% of client revenue for the work they already do. The gray hair does not understand marketing and sales the way we do. That is the perfect fit.
~$60K/mo each is the floor, before one raise closes

9 · Where it stands, and what tomorrow's call is for

Locked on the July 16 call

  • Green light. Build funded $4K Monday, Luka covers the rest. Engine plus back office live by Wednesday.
  • One engine, both paths. Deal origination first, investor outreach on the same build, no second cost.
  • Brooke is free. Luka's investment, no charge for the setter on either path.
  • Speed to lead. Leads Monday means dials Monday. Telephony, STIR/SHAKEN, 10DLC already done.
  • 50/50 partnership between Luka and Kevin on a firm they own.

Open for tomorrow (July 17)

  • The productization question. How to package and own the tool value inside a company, so it can be sold to the syndicate. Kevin needs this before his Monday partner call.
  • Kevin's keyword additions to sharpen the fundraising cluster.
  • Two test-client criteria for the first investor-outreach mandates.
  • Closer CRM fields to build out: notes, email history, a working timeline per lead.
  • Advisory-panel names: the "Hormozi of M&A" figures Kevin will name, to model into the engine's advisors.
updated after the jul 16 call
green-lit, funding Monday, standing
Kevin asked for the link

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Partner-safe (no economics, synthetic data): overview, live lead feed, Brooke's setter calls with transcripts, closer calendars with round-robin, investor-outreach mandates, and the 24-hour learning brain. This is "how you receive your leads." Kevin: "if there's a link, that would be amazing."

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